The Entertainment Software Association has confirmed that E3 2022 will be a digital-only event. The event was cancelled in 2020, and last year, it went online-only.
Here's the statement the ESA has given to GamesBeat:
Due to the ongoing health risks surrounding COVID-19 and its potential impact on the safety of exhibitors and attendees, E3 will not be held in person in 2022. We are nonetheless excited about the future of E3 and look forward to announcing more details soon.
Some have taken the news in the right spirit, at least:
Were you expecting E3 to return to a physical event this year? Let us know your thoughts on this news.
[source venturebeat.com]
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The never-ending plague strikes again…
Considering how garbage E3 was last year I honestly couldn't care less.
I mean, that's not really a deal-breaker after how everything was handled last year, at least by Nintendo. Yeah, I did miss seeing all of the booths, seeing all the live demonstrations and impressions and all of that good stuff, but it was going to be an online Direct regardless of whether it was there or not so I'm not too mad. They even kept the aftershow Treehouse gameplay last year for Dread, Superstars and Advance Wars so I'm not worried about all-online this year as well.
I’m pretty sure this is a cover considering they declined to sign off on a contract with the LACC back in November.
I often find myself wondering if E3 is even relevant anymore.
Nintendo popularized the "Direct" format of delivering news via their own digital pressers, and in a pandemic world other publishers have taken that format and done well with it. It's a proven method of getting news to fans, and really calls into question the viability of big in-person venues.
Would just like some news on Prime 4 and don't really care how it gets delivered.
Can't be worse than last years E3, right? Right?
Spin. There’s been reports of them cancelling their contracts with the LACC since November.
Finally, an upside to the COVID situation
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I would rather to see a list of upcoming games in words with one screenshot displayed so i will only care to getting know about upcoming kiddie / cartoonish games for kids from the list.
disapointing but expected, lets hope E3 2022 is better then E32021, if not, i not gonna waste my precious time watching the conference this time.
Can we please put this covid nonsense behind us? Yeah people are dying but new people die everyday. I wasn't scared from the start and I'm not going to freak out now. Hate me for opinion if you want to but enough already!
It's easier to not spend much, if any, money on a physical presentation Full of "hip" slang and video relative to anything but games and blame a pandemic that seems... Oddly choosy when it impacts gatherings.
Blizzcon, E3 and anything else of the sort plan on keeping like this forever. It's easier for them to blame something more fitting for the excuse as to why.
@CharlieGirl Whether it's relevant or not doesn't really matter that much in my eyes. Without covid, it can still be fun to go to such an event if nothing else. The atmosphere can be great. I never went to E3 before but I did go to a similar event years ago where games could be tried out early (no announcements there though).
Outside of that, I think it's still a fine platform, because if nothing else for online viewers, it at least 90% guarantees a Nintendo Direct in June among other announcement showcases. Whether that alone is still relevant... probably not. But when coupled with the event itself there, I think it's fine. Just sucks that Covid is making a mess of it all.
Personally I'm still someone who looks forward to E3 regardless. But I also wouldn't really miss it that much if it went away because of said online irrelevance. So long as they keep the announcements rolling in fine either way. I just like having a more set date at least once a year where they show us stuff.
Does anyone need E3 anymore? Would make more sense for Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft to hold their own showcases, Directs, whatever, at several occasions throughout a year. More trailers, demos and online betas can only be a good thing
Definitely a good decision as if it went ahead the majority of people in attendance would surely die
I don't really see the issue. The vast majority of people don't physically attend the showcases anyway, and it not being a physical event means they can get on with the streams more quickly, and we have fewer embarrassing stage spectacles to sift through. Watching The Game Awards this year reminded me of why I'm glad E3 is all-digital these days.
Mildly disappointing but unsurprising. Honestly, outside of Nintendo and a handful of games outside their control, I found last year's show VERY underwhelming. Capcom wasn't bad but could have focused on newer titles more. Square Enix was just disappointing outside of meme ammo. Didn't bother watching much else.
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I hope they can learn from last year’s mistakes of miscommunication, hours of filler and lack of interactivity, but I am doubtful.
Summer Games Fest also has its own issues. Last year’s really felt like a fizzle and really just 1 good night of showcases and then the Tribeca stuff. But it overall felt like a step below 2020’s consistent announcements.
I'll be curious how CES turns out, as they kept it in person this year. From everything I've heard, omnicron is more contagious, but also much more mild, so in a way, this could be the one that makes the pandemic turn into an endemic and actually gets us over the hump. Hey, it's a new year and I'm going the glass half full route.
E3 has been garbage in the last 3 years or so. So whatever.
...Remember when E3 was fun? lol
Rats.
Honestly, I only really read non-Nintendo news after E3, so this doesn't impact me too much, but seeing as how E3 is, from an outsider's perspective, a celebration of all of gaming for that year, it kind of bums me out that it won't be seen by others. But, as someone who is currently struggling with COVID and seeing a massive outbreak across my small city, it's honestly very necessary for our survival that we are careful with what events we allow open. We DO NOT need E3 to be open, it runs just fine without people.
Not surprising, either way though, I'm looking forward to seeing what game announcements, Nintendo will have planned for the event.
Some other sites are saying they may not even have that this year.
Darn. I was looking forward to watching a stream of adverts being shown to a bunch of people in an auditorium on YouTube, and now instead I’ll have to watch a stream of adverts directly on YouTube. Can life get any worse?
@QueenKittenWrite Where did you get the impression that a piece of cloth does "nothing"?
@QueenKittenWrite good to know you wouldn't mind a surgeon not wearing a mask when doing life saving surgery on you. Also science does prove masks work. People can breathe fine, and it doesn't really allow that many particles of spit out. It does help prevent you from getting covid...
Also mind telling me what good the "Republicans" have done like ever besides HELP THE RICH AND HURT EVERYONE ELSE?
I think the Writing was on the wall for this.
@DomGC I’m in full agreement with you.
that's very disappointing I was hoping for a BOTW 2 booth like what Nintendo did back in 2016
@chapu2006 @QueenKittenWrite is probably a trump supporter who doesn't believe in any of the COVID practices... probably doesn't even believe the vaccine helps protect people against COVID. Sure the vaccine doesn't make one immune from the virus, but it sure as hell does lessen the chances of you catching, and it also lessens the effects of the disease.
And since this is a gaming site... I have a analogy... for everyone... The vaccine and a mask is like using Reflect and Light Screen in a Pokemon battle... it isn't as good protection like the move Protect, but it sure as hell does help cut down the amount of damage you take from attacks. So yeah, keep dismissing usefulness of masks... hope you enjoy catching COVID, because it is bound to happen, @QueenKittenWrite
uhh, I thought this was a site about Nintendo news, not Twitter? This comment section is telling me otherwise
@QueenKittenWrite I read in a medical journal that’s been around since the SARS variant that wearing a mask reduces the distance that breath particles can travel through the air. The density of particles mattered, more dense particles could travel as far as 21 feet from a cough when the face was uncovered. The masks were found to reduce the distance the particles traveled to around 6 feet or less, which is the main reason that face coverings are recommended. But yeah keep believing whatever conspiracy theory websites you keep reading lol
@QueenKittenWrite Cloth masks that are 3-layers, properly fitted, and worn correctly have an efficacy of about 76% according to lab studies. These numbers are variable because most masks don’t create a proper seal. Two people wearing masks are more efficient than one. Is it perfect, no - Neither is the flu vaccine, which has a similar infection rate (60-70% efficiency depending on the year). None of this diminishes their impact overall - any percentage of protection is better than none.
Even without COVID, I think it should stick to the online format
@CharlieGirl there’s a lot of meetings and stuff going backstage though. Something such as E3 should be there as a celebration, I think.
@Truegamer79 It’s not about being scared vs being brave, though that helps. The situation is more practical than that; it has to do with disease prevention, which is everyone’s responsibility in an organized society. We can’t just put it behind us and hope it sorts itself out...we have to each do our part in trying to promote hygienic, daily practices.
Please. No more Geoff Keighley. No more Summer Game Fest….
That's a shame. You'd think with the virus getting weaker with each new variant, the policies would be adjusted.
But instead authorities seem hell bent on setting people up against each other. The injected vs pure bloods.
Hope we can see eye to eye again soon. Peace for everybody.
@Wilforce This. What’s up with the black and white thinking of people that just because something is around 80% effective, that means it’s not worth even bothering with? Seems defeatist to think that way. What’s the other option? To forgo protection completely, until something that works 100% becomes available? I don’t think these people are thinking through as much as they believe they are. Good on you for providing some sense.
@Eighties as a person whose at-the-time-not-yet-vaccinated-colleagues of 26 and 28 year old suffer from long Covid for almost a year already I can honestly say, you’re wrong on so many levels.
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@BloodNinja agreed. Nothing protects 100%. And no medicine will ever claim to work 100% of the time. There’s always at least one rare exception.
@Eighties thank you. This is how I feel as well. Especially the disappointment in fellow left leaning voters.
Why did they turn so authoritarian loving and pro pharma? Our sworn political enemies, used to!
I find it really disheartening...
Please don't turn this comment section into a toxic Twitter feed full of generalizations ("____ likes/dislikes X, so that makes them Y and Z"), misinformation, and political punditry. Thanks.
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@larryisaman @Gayusgayer so the whole government is against you all of a sudden?
It’s probably somewhere in the light-gray area. Most people want to do right.
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@Friendly My government (UK) have been self serving for a long time.
@Yorumi I don't believe any human rights are being lost in this process. You would have to link me to articles talking about it, at the very least. I see and hear a lot of people complaining that their rights are being taken, but I haven't seen evidence of any rights being advanced upon. Wearing a safety mask and getting a booster shot isn't downplaying any human rights, but getting sick because you chose not to protect yourself means that you are diminishing your own effectiveness.
I know E3 is not the most needed thing, but I love knowing when where going to get some game related news, its ether that or Shadow drops from here and there.
@Tyranexx Too late.
@Friendly Exactly. It's like the bullet proof vest I wear at work. It protects my abdomen, lungs, and heart. It doesn't protect my entire body, but I wear it anyway, knowing that it at least increases my survival chance. No harm in trying. Put your best effort forward.
@Yorumi Have you been hacked or something? You've been on the site for over 8 years then post this garbage.
@GayusGayer @larryisaman sigh. ‘Government’ and ‘fat elderly people’ are such easy terms and targets to blame.
The 26 and 28 year old colleagues were anything but fat, sick or elderly when they got sick, back in february.
This whole disease is not about governmental behaviour and failure. It’s about the loss of society and the rise of individualism. There’s only so much a government can do to increase vaccination rates. We could learn a lot from Japan. At least they mostly and collectively show respect for fellow humans.
@Yorumi It’s very weird. I’m routinely labelled far-right on twitter when opposing the authoritarianism being ushered in by way of the pandemic…. I voted Jeremy Corbyn in the last UK elections. Go figure.
Reject nintendo life, return to twitter.
@RedWing215 In case you haven't noticed, but the article you listed is referring to the new variant. Doesn't mean they "lied" about them "not working".
I find it interesting that that's your first comment you made since last year.
Last year sucked mega balls so idc about this
@Snatcher Most unfortunately.
So, let’s get back to what this is all about. E3. Any predictions? I predict we’ll see Breath of the Wild 2 there and it will be awesome! Can’t wait.
@Friendly I am not blaming them at all my friend. But it's important to look at the facts. Which groups are at risk. What can we do to protect them and keep society going for the 98%.
And to your anecdotal evidence: I have loads of collegues going through covid old and young. No one died. Two went through intensive care. For my family and friends: no one has lasting damage, most have had covid.
If you're paying attention even loosely you notice how the narrative is getting harsher and more divisive. This is not good. And not based on evidence or proper reasoning even.
@Natsura @DomGC
Countries that are majority vaccinated in fact, some countries have already approached the 99% percent of people that are vaccinated (I'm living in one), are now getting filled and exploding with rising cases of Covid-19 higher than ever before in the history of the virus "in their respective areas".
Not to mention that Trump has actually endorsed the vaccine multiple times and encouraged people to take it, so I don't get what you mean by the Trump supporters statement.
Also, from what I've read, the new Omicron varient is found predominantly in the people who got vaccinated. (Unvaccinated people are able to get it to.) I suggest you read this article, and it's coming from the Mainstream media.
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/coronavirus-early-us-omicron-cases-detected-mainly-in-vaccinated-people-2648394
Like please, you people should think for yourself rather than listening to the palpable corrupt media. And this is not an insult in any shape or form, this is a simple advice from a brother to another brother.
And btw, I'm not an anti-vaxxer and I have worn my mask every day since the pandemic began. And I've been following a strict clean hygiene (washing hands frequently, sanitizer, distancing, etc.)
@Friendly I think we’ll see the next Mario, a mainline Pokemon game, and maybe Metroid (more likely to be next year though). I suspect we’ll see another Zelda port before BotW2 - maybe Twilight Princess with the manga wrapping up - and one other port as a hold over until the big holiday releases.
@Eighties yes the new varient is less severe. However, it also spreads way more than Delta which was already more spreadable. Of course, I shouldn't have expected much from "I'm never going to allow my government to blackmail me. Where are my fellow leftists who've been critical of big pharma and authoritarianism in general in the past?".
Big report submission for you fine sir.
@Entrr_username not 'less severe'. It's VERY mild.
This just means that Nintendo will easily win E3 again this year. Their Nintendo Direct alone would trump all presentations. All they had to do this year is show us Breath of the Wild 2 and Metroid Prime 4 gameplay in all their glory and victory is assured. They could also throw us a port of Xenoblade Chronicles X, a new Golden Sun, and an HD remastered of Super Mario Galaxy 2 for the icing on the cake too.
@larryisaman "It’s like everyone believes we live in a fairy tale world now where government and corporations have only our best interests at heart and couldn’t possibly have other motives."
Well I wouldn't say they have our "best interests at heart", but other motives? Seriously?
You've been here for 9 years and think you can post that? For shame.
@GayusGayer Literally the same thing. Still more transmissible. Not like I expected much from someone who can say "authoritarian loving and pro pharma" and make a Nazi comparison with a straight face.
@GayusGayer can you explain the hospitals having a lot of covid patients?
‘Very mild’.
You know those two colleagues that went to the IC did delay around 10-15 heart operations? Ok. Now you know.
@Entrr_username All the best mate. 👍
@Wilforce good predictions .
At least we tried.
I say it’s the right call going digital. Although E3 ain’t what it use to be. Might be surprise that gets my attention for this event, maybe
No big deal to me, E3 hasn't been the same for years now, glad I went and saw it myself in person in 2017 but digital events are becoming the norm anymore.
*Due to how much cheaper it is to have a digital conference
I fixed it for them.
E3 was already dying before Corona. Mark my words, there will never be a physical E3 again. Other similar tech shows will pop up, sure, but this is about saving cash. There was rumors the about E3 going digital long before corona anyway.
Not a huge loss, in my opinion. As an introvert who hardly leaves the home, the lockdown aspect of COVID honestly hasn't phased much. Not to make light of the loss if life, which is tragic. But if anything good has come from this mess, it's shown how convenient it can be to work from home. I hope when all this is over, companies will allow their employees to keep doing it that way if they want. You get to stay home with your wife and kids, you don't have to commute, you don't have to move halfway across the country, you don't have to get dressed unless you have a ZOOM meeting. Ironically, progress in technology has come so far, it's enabling us to go back to the old days before cars--when couples could be self-sufficient at home. Instead of growing their own food, they can just have it shipped through Amazon.
E3 could really take advantage of this by having downloadable demos of upcoming games instead of in-person kiosks. That way even the people who don't get to go to E3 normally would get to play the latest games before they come out. Maybe even charge people like 5 bucks to play a small portion of Breath of the Wild months ahead of its release. I think that'd be pretty reasonable and way cheaper than a plane ticket and a convention pass. But they didn't to anything like that last year, so they probably won't this year. Shame.
@Entrr_username yeah, he’s talking about camps and splitting the population in the same post.
@CharlieGirl I agree. I'm just a Nintendo guy, so Sony and Microsoft's presentations usually don't interest me. Directs are nice because it's all Nintendo.
@Dpishere when it returns in physical form, would you recommend going there to experience it once?
@Yorumi I know you're a like botter that's for sure.
You also don't realize how transmissible omicron is so actions you ignorantly assume are "rights stripping, discrimination, and "papers please"" are happening. You also don't know what internment camps are nor the definition of "forced medical procedure".
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/dec/13/ron-johnson/johnson-falsely-says-unvaccinated-people-around-wo/
I'm genuinely getting annoyed about how many media outlets are causing people to treat E3 like it's have an identity crisis, when big companies like Microsoft and Nintendo openly choose to continue to support it.
It's true that the statistics are decreasing as the years go by, and hosting something there is becoming a lot more strict (ie: refer to Geoff's departure) and expensive (probably why Sony chose to leave). However, the fact remains that it's the time of the year when gamers often get the most excited because it is one of the few times of the year where most publishers and developers showcase their projects.
E3 has transitioned into a convention, and I don't see a problem with that. If we can have Summer Games Fest, Gamescom, Tokyo Game Show, and The Game Awards, then there is certainly no reason for E3 to end.
@DomGC
Honestly... I probably would've taken a step further by saying those who aren't able to get the vaccines are dying as a result of it whike others are choosing not to get vaccinated, letting those unused vaccines expire and go to waste which end up causing more people to fall ill and die. However, that's already digging too deep of a hole here and it'll be a matter of time before this article's comments section gets deactivated.
@Friendly If it somehow returned to the glory that it was in 2017 then yes I would say it is definitely worth it, if not for a chance to just be able to see LA as well. I don't know how fun it would be to go nowadays with publishers having their own digital events, just depends on how many booths are set up, trying games before anyone else is part of the fun.
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You should shut down this comment section. Like now. I have never before put so many people on ignore at once. Humanity is doomed.
@ModdedInkling E3 is going to die basically because everyone is just doing their own thing and will continue to do so. There are so many game events now every year it makes it pretty much mehhh anymore.
@Yorumi Wait, you're not saying that the vaccine is a "forced medical procedure" are you?
@Dirty0814 the vaccines protect you from getting the worse of the effects from the virus while the ones refuse to get vaccinated will lets just say they reap wat they sow for not taking this virus seriously.
@BTB20 Sadly not the first it turned to this and sadly won't be the last.
It seems odd given vaccines are ubiquitous and you could easily make them a prerequisite for any attendee. Perhaps it just works better and is cheaper to go online.
As expected. I full on knew this was going to happen
Besides vaccines aren't going to keep this virus at bay forever. What are we supposed to do? Wear masks for the rest of our lives? Here in Missouri, the Governor only cares about business and the no-mask policy. We're not even reaching herd immunity. Not even close to halfway.
@Dirty0814 You're correct. The vaccines don't prevent infection or transmission. It was hoped they did, and the early days looked promising, and then it quickly changed as vaccine effect wanes. While they still might reduce your infectious period a little, that's offset by the more aggressive social behaviour of vaccinated people and, due to vaccines reducing symptoms so well, they are devastating silent super spreaders. Whereas a non vaccinated person will more likely get symptoms and so would immediately isolate. You only need look at Australia with 95% fully vaccinated and cases have exploded. So the vaccine message now is really about personal protection, especially if in a vulnerable category.
@Yorumi You can't admit that the vaccines are safe yet still call em despots, period. I advise you know what a "despot" is and realize that they still are taking science into the equation before putting any finger on your keyboard mister.
P.S You're an utter disgrace to the Nintendolife name.
@Joeynator3000 Can you lock this comment section plz thanks
Food for thought: Our government already tells us to wear our seatbelt in the car or pay a fine, but no one bats an eye at that.
@Yorumi And you can keep misusing words and think people's rights are being taken away and their lives will be made miserable and stuff. None of your "arguments" are even worth arguing since they're completely bs. You keep forgetting that this is a Nintendo news site. Good thing I reported all your comments.
@DomGC No offense, I'm on the opposite side of you here. I am fully vaccinated and yes I wear my mask but I also live in Melbourne, Australia and the conditions we have been put through here are ridiculous.
Sensitive topic but I lost a close friend to suicide and none of the people here have been in a good mental state over the years. People lost money, jobs, families, all because some people in suits decided that this virus is the deadliest thing ever when the reality is that it isn't. Not to mention all of the political drama that went over here with politicians being exposed for taking advantage to make serious profits off the pandemic as well as the police force taking advantage of the situation to abuse people and put themselves on an egotistical power trip.
I agree with the sentiment that many, MANY people die every day, week, month and year. Destroying others' beliefs and ways of life because of this is messed up. People who don't want to jab themselves with a needle are people who are exercising free will and freedom of speech. If somebody is genuinely at risk with bad body conditions as is then I suggest them to distance themselves if they do care about these things.
We spent nearly a year in full lockdown where you weren't even allowed outside without a good reason. Just because whatever country you're in has it good and you seem to only need to put on masks for "5 minutes" doesn't mean the rest of the world is the same way.
Just some food for thought.
@Not_Soos There is no universe where comparing seatbelts to mandating vaccinations or enforcing vaccination through domestic passports/job threats makes any sense. Just not a reasonable comparison in any way whatsoever.
@Varkster "decided that this virus is the deadliest thing ever when the reality is that it isn't"
It might not be but it's still very transmissible, even moreso with omicron.
@Entrr_username Not saying it's not transmitted easily but there needs to be a certain point (it has been 3 years now) that the world needs to move on and learn how to live with it because just like the flu it is now a part of our lives.
These three years have done enough damage.
I hope all the people decrying vaccines etc. in this comment section do the responsible thing and avoid medical care when they are ill. If you don't trust the medical system, then give it up for people who do, you hypocrites.
@Threebcisum Declining medical assistance when you need it is a far cry from vaccinating yourself to avoid needing medical assistance my guy. As I said I've been vaccinated but I support a world that has free choice which is what people pre-dating both you and I were fighting to accomplish.
We found another way to segregate after classism, racism and sexism now it's something a lot more shallow and negligible.
Keep in mind as I said above I am vaccinated. That was my free choice.
@Threebcisum @StarPoint @DomGC @GayusGayer @Dirty0814 @RiasGremory @HalBailman @Yorumi @Not_Soos @Entrr_username @Varkster (I guess there's too many to count here)
I think everyone here can agree. This discussion has gone WAYYYY overboard. I thought we came here to discuss Nintendo, not sociopolitical discussions.
Why can't we all just get along and save those discussions for somewhere else? At the end of the day, it's just gonna ruin the chance for others to comment about what this article was actually talking about. Whether or not you believe taking the vaccine is the right choice to make, just keep it to your brain or talk somewhere else, please. If other people are calling out, then just ignore them. They certainly can't change your mind, because that is ultimately up to you and your own brain to make that choice, no one else.
Once again, pause and think about the risk you are taking by discussing something so heated as this? It's bound to happen and it has happened before. So please once again, I beg you guys to just stop this so we don't ruin it for those who actually want to talk about the article.
We'd have been past covid-19 by now if conspiracy nuts and anti-vaxers actually demonstrated 1/10th of 1% of their precious "herp personal responsibility derp" and did their part, but no, just freeload on the responsibility of others, while screaming about tyranny and oppression. STHU.
I lost a very special person due to covid. Not superficial crap like no restaurants or no vacation, etc.. My compassion for the loud, aggressive, uncompassionate, arrogant conspiracy idiots and similar selfish people ran out long ago. 😡
Getting my booster 💉 January 10th, 2022.
Should be like this regardless. Nintendo was smart to move away from physical/on stage showcases years ago. The worst E3 shows in recent memory have been bogged down with on stage cringe and fluff.
@KryptoniteKrunch
Technically that's only half true. They still did Nintendo Treehouse showcases physically, immediately after each Direct, and they often ran the longest out of every other booth/conference at E3.
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Some people refuse to get the vaccine because they don’t think it works. Others support permanent lockdowns because they don’t think the vaccine works. Seems to be two sides of the same coin.
Still, live E3 long outlived its useful life. Having it online would’ve made sense even in 2019.
@Entrr_username I don't have control over that.
As others have said, the vast, VAST majority of people who watch E3 do so from home on their device of choice. All digital means not a whole lot to most of who E3 is tailored toward in the first place. Besides... I only ever watch the Nintendo Direct anyway, and you don't need E3 to have those 🤣
@ModdedInkling
Why do "getting along" and "saving those discussions for somewhere else" have to go hand-in-hand? I agree with you that this sort of thing shouldn't get so heated, even though this is a sensitive subject. But I try to be respectful of others when chiming in on controversial topics, and as far as I'm concerned, that's all I can really do. Sure, maybe I'm not gonna change anybody's mind, but I'm also not responsible for anybody's hate comments. Their true colors would show themselves eventually, anyways--look how needlessly heated discussions about Paper Mario can get. I think the best thing to do is lead by example and just not get hostile like them. For the record, seatbelt analogy wasn't even me picking a side, it was just an observation. But I know, politics and the like are stressful, and video games should be an escape. Still, it's the internet, so you just have to try not to let it get to you.
@ModdedInkling Ok but Yorumi started it all (QueenKittenWrite's comment got deleted)
Thanks COVID
@Not_Soos I get your comment but this article was about E3 getting moved to online due to COVID concerns and someone just had to focus on the COVID part.
@Not_Soos
I hope others will see your comment, because I wholeheartedly agree with you there.
@Entrr_username
Honestly, I can take the blame for saying my part of the discussion (it was an earlier comment before that huge one I sent).
@Entrr_username Am I misunderstanding what you're saying, because you were arguing about COVID before I ever chimed in.
E3 wasn't relevant before this whole Covid thing.... why would we care now. I really only care for Nintendo Directs and honestly not even half of them.
That said, at some point we just need to move on with our lives. And some of ya'll (on both sides) are painting with some pretty broad strokes.
@Yorumi I mean, that’s all fine and good, but most government officials have a better overview of the world than a rugged individualist, simply due to them having access to more information. I think it’s insane that you believe a vaccine is a “forced medical procedure,” that’s probably the craziest thing I’ve ever heard anyone say. Especially when the heart of the matter is not control of people, but control of a disease. It’s just how maligned people’s thoughts have become. Government always evil, government never does anything for the common good. Must be depressing to be a government official. They’re people just like you and me. Nobody is above that.
@Not_Soos I was trying to reply to your hand-in-hand comment but in hindsight, I don't know where my reply was relating to it.
@ModdedInkling Nah you're good. You're not responsible at all.
They should have it in Florida. That’s where all the politicians from the lock down states are going. And you don’t even have to wear a mask. They don’t.
@BloodNinja What's ironic is that the "forced medical procedures" apply to government officials as well
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@Varkster I totally understand that but it's hard to do that when new variants just pop up out of nowhere and screw up the process and fill up hospitals again.
@Entrr_username lol Exactly. You would think that in the fight of an outside third party (a darned disease) that would finally unite our thoughts and minds, but nope. Not even natural disaster can bring humanity together. Overinflated and self-important human ego is the true enemy, not government or anything else.
Makes sense. Every country needs to come up with a variant. So my guess in... 40 years time it should return?
@Truegamer79 How do you know that the person you are witnessing isn't just sitting in their car for other reasons? I sit in my car all the time just listening to music. I think you're assuming something that you could be completely incorrect about.
@Varkster well said
@Dirty0814 you don’t know how vaccines work if you say we should not have any cases anymore…..
So many non-educated people are taking part of the discussions….. basic biology.
@Varkster three years? Mate………….
Count again.
Also, there’s only so far free choice should go in a society. By having to go to the IC you directly impact others. And the disease is transmittable. So by not getting vaccinated you show you do not care about yourself and others. And you negatively impact others.
The polio vaccine was mandatory. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211029-why-mandatory-vaccination-is-nothing-new
What I do miss about E3 is a bit like what I do miss about gaming magazines and television. They are all part of a different era where information was even more gated.
So it is probably pointless to continue on with old school E3, whatever the reason for not oganising one this year.
@BloodNinja
I meant sitting in their car with the windows rolled up while wearing a mask or heck three masks as Dr. fauci would suggest. They seem afraid of the open air. If it were possible I'd suggest they leave the planet as breathing earths air even 400 miles from the nearest person might kill you. If you're that freaked out you need professional help.
@Friendly 2019-2020 is one year. 2020-2021 is two years. It's 2022 right now lmao.
As for your other statement I think I'll listen to the person commenting below me and stop replying on this thread. It's a highly sh*tty discussion to be having on a gaming website and I've debated this with others in my circles for a long time.
Have a good day.
@Truegamer79 Poor assumptions. People are too quick to judge.
@Varkster this stuff started in december 2019 in China. Arrived in the west in early 2020.
Count again. Not even 2 years. And you’re even saying ‘lmao’.
Sigh…..
I'm glad that people kept the comments civil and well-mannered while I was away...
@Friendly My bad for not remembering dates then? You could try to come off a little less standoffish in your initial response. Would do good for a change.
Maybe I would have then cared to put more thought into my response.
@Varkster guess it’s my fault you made a mistake, now.
Also: you even put lmao down. Who is standoffish now?
But whatever.
@Friendly I put down a few generally very serious comments and your first response was to point out a mistake I made which doesn't even change what I was trying to say in the slightest. 2 years is still an abhorent amount of time and for me living in Melbourne I had to spend most of it staying at home alone unable to even see friends or family.
You knew what I was trying to say and decided to mock instead. That is what standoffish is to me. Either way as I said I'm not continuing arguments on this thread because honestly it holds no value or consequence.
I'll just agree to disagree with you and hope we don't step off the wrong foot next time.
"E3 Is Going To Be Digital-Only Again This Year, Thanks To COVID-19"
"Thanks"?
(suggests a different version of this part of this article: News Regarding Another Possible Digital-only E3 Due to Possible Health Risks)
@Yorumi The fact that you can type all that without getting arrested by an agency that polices your online posts proves that you live in a good country, and that you are being overly negative towards the situation. I’m assuming from your post history that you play video games? Just another freedom you have, and I’m sure whichever country you live in isn’t policing that, either.
But having to wear a protective face covering in public and get a shot means corruption/prove you’re vaccinated indicates corruption? Please. Your profile states you live in USA. So do I. You’re being so insufferably blind to the amount of freedom and safety and opportunity you have living here. This is one of the only countries in the world where someone can show up with a few dollars in their pocket and turn that into a good life.
It’s amazing how blind the US is to the sheer amount of freedoms we have, when compared to third world countries, communist countries, and dictatorships. Stop whining about face coverings and shots when you live in one of the safest and most well developed countries in the world.
@BloodNinja Freedom is never more than a generation away from extinction.
@Yorumi First off, nothing you are saying is true unless you provide newsworthy links. Second, you’re further proving my point about you being completely blind to your country’s freedoms. I live in the US too, and I love this country, flaws and all, because the pros of living here far outweigh the cons. I’m not living in a European country, so you can’t take advantage of me having to believe you on merit alone. I actually live here, and I am thriving for it. I don’t take you seriously for one second when we live in a place with an incredible amount of order. Yes, there are corrupt officials, but you are forgetting that there are people in our government that attempt to block corruption. You are also taking for granted that there are tons of emergency services at the touch of your finger tips to save your life at any given moment, that there are numerous roadways under constant repair to maintain traffic flow, and that we can almost be guaranteed to be able to walk outside without literal war occurring in your front yard.
The problem with Americans is that our freedoms are so normalized to us that we take them for granted. Have you ever met someone from a country with actual corruption? A friend of mine that moved here from Cuba years ago was literally on their knees crying their eyes out when I brought them to Baskin Robbins. They were in shock at how easily they could just walk into a place and get ice cream, because in Cuba it was only available to the ultra wealthy, at the time. We have it SO GOOD here, the minor corruption we face from some officials is small potatoes.
@Euler Don’t give me such negative sentiments. Freedom cannot be taken away, but it’s GIVEN away all the time.
@Entrr_username Did you not read the article I linked?
“Single-layer cloth masks, which many people prefer for comfort and style, can block larger droplets carrying the virus, but aren’t as effective in blocking smaller aerosols or particles carrying the virus, according to infectious-disease specialists.”
It doesn’t matter what virus or variant we’re talking about—what matters are the aerosols the virus is attached to. Smaller aerosols can easily penetrate through cloth masks, making them useless against this and any other viral disease. It’s basic science.
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@RedWing215 So then don't stand directly in front of people when they breath, my sources say you should be fine. Also, basic science dictates that the face coverings aren't designed to completely stop aerosols from penetrating. They are designed to minimize the distance that said aerosols travel through the air, which is the main concern in daily life. So you socially distance and wear a face covering, which was the recommendation from day 1. Also, do you wear a ventilator that completely seals your face? If not, I'm not convinced you are as worried about it as you seem.
@BloodNinja I’m not worried about COVID. I’m more worried about people spreading bad science and insisting other people follow along. Another link to consider:
https://uwaterloo.ca/news/media/study-supports-widespread-use-better-masks-curb-covid-19
“Engineering researchers at the University of Waterloo performed experiments using a mannequin to simulate a seated person breathing in a large room. The studies showed a significant buildup over time of aerosol droplets – exhaled droplets so tiny they remain suspended and travel through the air – despite the use of common cloth and blue surgical masks.”
“The study showed that most common masks, primarily due to problems with fit, filter about 10 per cent of exhaled aerosol droplets. The remaining aerosols are redirected, mostly out the top of the mask where it fits over the nose, and escape into the ambient air unfiltered.”
A standard cloth mask allows 90% of exhaled aerosols to disperse into the air. And considering the huge viral loads of recent COVID variants, that means that the mask literally does you no good—it’s just a placebo. If someone IS infected, and they are breathing, they are spreading the virus, and a cloth mask won’t stop it. The only surefire way to keep from contracting COVID is to literally live out the rest of your life sheltered, and that’s no way to live.
@RedWing215 I'm not arguing against what you just wrote in the slightest, since I never defined what type of mask I was talking about.
@BloodNinja It’s not a sentiment, it’s simply a (rather astute) observation about the way the world works. See: Venezuela, Afghanistan, Nazi Germany, etc. The idea that a freer, more just world is inevitable rather than something that must be fought for and preserved is a dangerous delusion.
@Euler If you're willing to give your freedom away, then it will be taken. Again, keep your negativity to yourself. Not interested.
@ModdedInkling Who's not getting along? Who's heated? Not me. Your advice is great for those that can't be civil. My advice in these situations is if you can't be civil in replies, don't reply at all. Then you get a nice discussion!
@BloodNinja A disturbing number of people are apparently happy to let their freedom be taken away if those in power can find some out group to scapegoat (in this case the unvaccinated déplorables).
@NintendoKnight You know covid vaccines are not good protecting you from getting the disease, but for getting too sick and dying for it. Its common knowledge.
Getting covid is not really the problem, dying for it, or getting to sock is.
Vaccines work
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